Revenue-aligned, bottom-up planning with Sam Kuehnle (Loxo)
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Ever sat in a quarterly review and watched marketing celebrate their top-of-the-funnel wins when sales just missed the number? 

 

It’s cringe… but a lot of us are guilty. 🙋‍♀️

 

This rerun from Move The Needle is for every marketer who’s done their job… but still ended up misaligned.

 

Sam Kuehnle (VP of Marketing at Loxo) joined us to unpack how he builds marketing plans that drive revenue, earn trust, and don’t rely on magic math.

 

We walked through real spreadsheets, real examples, and the levers most people forget to pull.

In this edition:

  • How to Build a Marketing Plan That Leadership Buys Into
  • From Goals to Results: Your Planning Toolkit
  • On-Demand Webinar: The New Rules to Get Found in ChatGPT & AI Search
  • This Week’s Silo-Smashing GTM Reads

🎙️ How to Build a Marketing Plan That Leadership Buys Into

From Goals to Results: Build a Marketing Plan That Leadership Buys Into (w/ Sam Kuehnle, Loxo)

“We hit 120% of our MQL goal… and then sales missed revenue by 15%.”

 

That’s how Sam Kuehnle opened this episode, with a cautionary tale from an old quarterly business review. Everyone in marketing was celebrating, but sales missed the number. 

 

It’s a misalignment moment that sticks with you — and it’s why Sam now builds marketing plans that start from company goals and work backward.

Start with the company goal (and your piece of the pie)

 

Let’s say your company wants to go from $2M to $3M in ARR next year. That’s a $1M gap to fill.

 

Sam says the mistake most marketers make? Immediately jumping into tactics and spend.

 

Instead, Sam starts with sourcing data: historically, what % of revenue has marketing sourced? If marketing contributed 40% of last year’s $2M, then it’s reasonable to assume they’d own about $400k of the new $1M goal — unless something materially changes.

 

“I just go straight to historicals,” Sam says. “What did AE-sourced, BDR-sourced, marketing-sourced revenue look like? That gives you a baseline.”

 

This sounds simple, but too often marketing (or sales) operates in a vacuum. One team overperforms on leads, while the other underdelivers on revenue.

That’s why Sam pushes for alignment upfront — before anyone builds a plan.

 

Bottoms-up vs top-down: use both

 

After agreeing on marketing’s share of the goal, Sam runs two models:

  • Bottoms-up: What did we achieve this year, and with what resources?

  • Top-down: What’s our target next year, and what will it take to hit it?

“The delta sits in between,” he explains. “That’s where you start pressure-testing your plan.”

 

For example, if you did $250k sourced revenue this year with $500k in spend, and now you’re expected to deliver $400k next year, you’re going to need a 60% lift. That doesn’t happen without resourcing changes — or serious optimization.

 

The most overlooked lever: demo-to-opportunity conversion

 

Sam’s favorite lever isn’t budget. Or ad channels. Or SEO.

 

It’s fixing the handoff from lead to sales call.

 

“This is the most inefficient place in most funnels,” he says. “It’s where you’re playing chase, losing people, wasting time.”

 

If your demo-to-op conversion rate is 16%, bumping it to 22% can close the entire revenue gap  without touching spend. Tools like Chili Piper (for self-scheduling and routing) can eliminate this friction entirely.

 

“Honestly, when you fix this, you barely have to touch anything else.”

 

It’s not sexy or new, but it’s high leverage. And most companies leave it untouched.

 

Don’t treat new channels like proven bets

 

What about those “big bets” — YouTube, a new content series, LinkedIn ads?

 

“Unless you’ve fully optimized your funnel, new channels should be treated as experiments — not forecasts,” Sam says.

 

He doesn’t commit to revenue from a new channel until it’s proven. Instead, he sets leading indicators (e.g., subscribers, impressions, attribution mentions) and defines exit criteria — what success looks like, and when to cut bait.

 

If a new channel works, great — it becomes a lever in the next plan. But it doesn't belong in this year’s target unless it’s already proven.

Get the full playbook

 

Sam’s approach isn’t flashy. But it works. And if you do it right?

 

“You’ll never walk into a QBR again and say, ‘We hit our goal’… while the company missed theirs.”

 

👉 Watch the episode and get the playbook

🛠️ From Goals to Results: Your Planning Toolkit

OKRs

Want to put some of Sam’s principles into action – and build a more goal-driven, business objective-aligned plan? We’ve got you. 

 

Forecast Modeling

Learn how to use Forecast Modeling in Databox to plan with data instead of gut feeling.

 

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OKRs

Learn how to use OKRs in Databox to align your entire company around the right objectives and track progress automatically.

 

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Predictable Scale Course

Sign up for a free, self-paced course that teaches you how to develop your strategy, turn it into a practical plan, align your team, and leverage data to predict growth and exceed targets.

 

→ Start the free course

🎬 On-Demand Webinar: The New Rules to Get Found in ChatGPT & AI Search

Get Found Get Traffic (3)

Is your brand disappearing in AI search?

 

In this 45-minute webinar, Rick Kranz, founder of The AI Marketing Automation lab, shares the strategies to drive AI search visibility and analyze your AI-generated traffic.

 

  • How to find where you already appear in LLMs like ChatGPT
  • How to structure content for AI optimization (including a free tool)
  • Ideas to scale content creation with automated AI workflows
  • An Airtable + Databox use case to monitor the impact of your AI efforts
  • How to track traffic from LLMs in GA4

Registrants will also get access to a free AI-optimizer tool and an AI traffic tracking dashboard template!

 

👉 Watch the recording now

🤝 This week’s silo-smashing GTM reads

Share with a colleague and tear down those walls!

  • 2026 CMO Budget Planning Guide + Workbook (Forrester)
  • Marketing Calendar Template (CMO Alliance)
  • GTM Metric Dashboards & Templates (Databox)

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