Amanda Natividad from SparkToro is back – and making the case for VOI over ROI.
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When we started planning the podcast relaunch, one of the first people we knew we had to have on the show was Amanda Natividad.

 

She was a favorite from her Metrics & Chill episode way back when, and with SparkToro at the forefront of some of the biggest shifts in modern marketing (looking at you, zero-click content), we knew it was time to bring her back.

 

Let’s dive in! 👇

In this edition:

  • Zero-Click Content Isn’t the Enemy of ROI – It’s the Future
  • Templates to Support Your Zero-Click Strategy
  • What’s Your Dream Dashboard? We’ll Build It For You!
  • Predictable Scale: Join the Waitlist
  • This Week’s Silo-Smashing GTM Reads

🎙️ Zero-Click Content Isn’t the Enemy of ROI – It’s the Future

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There’s a lot of pressure in marketing to prove performance. Especially when budgets are tight, leadership wants numbers: leads, conversions, revenue.

 

But what happens when the most impactful marketing doesn’t come with a click?

 

That’s the reality Amanda Natividad lives and breathes every day as VP of Marketing at SparkToro – and the reason she’s on a mission to reframe how we think about content ROI.

 

“You can’t reliably count on the click anymore,” she explained. “And even when you get it, you won’t always see it.”

 

Why Zero-Click Content Works

 

Amanda was the first to identify the shift towards zero-click content and give it a name. Using a zero-click content approach, she built her own Twitter following from ~1000 followers to over 10,000 in about a year and a half, and her newsletter list from zero to 8k subscribers in a year.

 

So she knows what she’s talking about. 

 

Amanda defines zero-click content as any content designed to deliver value without requiring a click – things like:

  • Social posts
  • Email or SubStack newsletters
  • Community engagement

These formats are more visible, get better reach, and build familiarity over time, even if your analytics dashboard can’t trace a straight line back to pipeline.

 

“You accrue algorithmic capital by posting zero-click content,” Amanda said. “And every now and then, you burn a little of that capital to post a link.”

 

The Real ROI: VOI > ROI

 

Rather than chasing clicks, Amanda focuses on Value on Investment (VOI):

  • Is the content building trust?
  • Are people mentioning your brand?
  • Is it making your sales cycle easier?

She isn’t ignoring performance – but she’s also not limiting SparkToro’s marketing to what’s measurable. Amanda uses consistent signals like increased direct traffic, newsletter replies, demo requests, and social mentions to guide the strategy.

 

And she’s careful to build internal buy-in – by meeting with teams like sales and legal to identify the content that will meet their needs. 

 

“If it's not ROI or VOI, it's at least showing you value their time and their partnership. And that will take you places.”

 

What This Looks Like in Practice

 

So what does this zero-click strategy actually look like – from the one who coined the term and started the movement?

 

For Amanda, it’s about crafting content that delivers value the moment it’s seen – no extra click required. But that doesn’t mean she’s winging it.

  • Use links sparingly and intentionally: Amanda explains that you build visibility by giving the algorithm (and audience) what they want, but that doesn’t mean never posting a link.

  • Build a strong newsletter list: Amanda dedicates significant effort to crafting her newsletter, another zero-click strategy. When asked to describe her “dream dashboard,” tracking newsletter impact was #1. (see an example in the playbook)

  • Stakeholder buy-in: Amanda talks about working with key teams like Sales and Legal to identify their content needs. Not only does this build goodwill, but chances are, your audience is highly interested in this content, too.

  • Sustainable content: Amanda prioritizes what she calls content sustainability – creating assets that can be repurposed into many different (zero-click) formats and channels. 
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    📚 Templates to Support Your Zero-Click Strategy

     

    Want to implement Amanda’s approach? These dashboard templates can help:

    • Social Media (Awareness & Engagement)
    • Social Networks (Growth & Engagement)
    • LinkedIn Company Page Engagement
    • GA4 Website Traffic

    Explore even more plug-and-play templates below:

     

    →  Explore 30+ Social Media Templates
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    If you don’t use the sources or metrics in the templates you see, no problem! 

     

    Build your own dashboard from scratch, or contact us and we’ll help you build that dashboard you’ve been dreaming about.

     

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    🚀 Predictable Scale: Join the Waitlist

    Looking to grow revenue and margins more confidently? COMING SOON!

     

    Databox CEO Pete Caputa is putting the final touches on a new Predictable Scale Methodology & Course – designed to help organizations leverage AI, deep analysis, and performance management to strategize, plan, and execute with less guesswork and more control.

     

    👉 Join the waitlist

    🤝 This Week’s Silo-Smashing GTM Reads

     

    Share with a colleague and tear down those walls! 

    • Exactly What to Measure with Lift Based Marketing Investments (SparkToro)
    • How to Measure Content ROI (Even When You Can’t) (Databox)
    • Demand Gen Unlocked: Insights, Challenges, and Strategies for the Future (TrustRadius)

    👀  Coming soon!

     

    Next time we’re serving up insights from How Kyle Lacy, CMO at Docebo – we’ll hear how he’s redefined marketing’s role from order-taker to revenue-owning partner by aligning teams around shared data, building joint GTM plans with sales, and introducing measurable, cross-functional systems that scale.

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